Thursday, February 22, 2007
# Posted 7:08 AM by Patrick Porter
The Spartans fight bare-chested without armor, in the “heroic nude” manner that ancient Greek vase-painters portrayed Greek hoplites, their muscles bulging as if they were contemporary comic book action heroes.Cool. (9) opinions -- Add your opinion
Please read "Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield. The Spartens way of life was crazy and although they valued their freedom they were content to depend on slaves to maintain their economy while they trained for battle. I was always mystified by Athens loss to Sparta.Other books to read are Pressfield's book on Alcibiedes and "The Ten Thousand" about the anabasis.
I have read Pressfield, and agree that the Spartans' own slaveowning complicates the narrative of Hellenic freedom v Persian enslavement.
It just looks like a cracking film, that's all.
"complicates the narrative": what a hoot. Mr Jefferson, General Washington, you are complicating the narrative.
whatever dearime, I am simply looking forward to a good film about a great story.
I suggest you go elsewhere for 'gotcha' comments.
It was all right, I would have preferred Achilles to be a rampagingly gay hero-warrior.
I liked the fact that it blended lots of stories about Troy (ie, it wasn't the Iliad).
the best thing, I reckon, was that it evoked the powerful idea that immortality was to be achieved via heroic acts in a short lifetime, to be retold as stories later.
Of course, I wasn't watching it for historical accuracy. Some people evaluate these things according to that standard.
As someone trying to be an historian, its better just to watch fine myths being retold!
Accent on retold. I thought at its best, it was brilliant. A more or less godless Iliad, who'd of thought? At its worst, it was laughably bad. The scene with Aeneas. "What's your name?" "Aeneas." "Do you know how to use a sword?" This, coming from the wimp of all wimps Paris to the Roman stud Aeneas. Please.
All in all, I loved it but this was a minority opinion in my family. Brad Pitt was great but the women were weak.
Achilles ragingly gay? Ragingly bi. But raging. There's Patroclus and Briseis, a lot of both.
FWIW, I hated the Odyssey with Armand Assante. No risks, just special effects.
I highly recommend the recent production of Jason and the Argonauts.
Denis Hopper as Pelias!!!
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